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AGENDA
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
June 25, 2012
6:00 PM
1) Cail Meeting to Order
2) Pledge of Allegiance
3) Roll Call
4) Approval of Minutes: May 21, 2012 Regular Meeting
5) Old Business:
1) Finalize CIP improvements
6) New Business:
None
7) Input from Public
8) Chairman's Matters
9) Member comments
10) Staff Comments
11) Set next meeting date and agenda
12) Adjourn
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CITY OF SEBASTIAN
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
May 21, 2012 - 6:00 p.m.
1) The Sebastian Parks and Recreation Committee was cailed to order by Chairman
Scott Simpson.
2) The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3) Roll Call: Present: Scott Simpson (Chair), Jerome Adams, John Tenerowicz, JoAnne
White, JoAnn Webster (Alternate), and Stephen Lucier (Alternate)
Vice Chairman Matthew Sims was absent and excused.
Staff Members Present: AI Minner, City Manager; Parks Supervisor, Chris McCarthy;
Sally Maio Recording for Linda Kinchen
4) Approval of Minutes: 4/23/12
Ms. White noted that she was in attendance at the 4/23 meeting, though marked as
absent, clarified that Mr. Tenerowicz, on page 2, paragraph 6, was referring to the
Creative Playground restroom as being a mess, and he confirmed he was referencing
the Creative Playground. She then noted on the same page Mr. Sunnycalb's comment
about "growing" the park should be changed. The City Manager rephrased the
paragraph as follows: "Jim Sunnycalb said he was active in requesting improvements for
the dog park. He went on to express that a restroom at the dog park would also be
helpful for people walking or riding a bike." Mr. Sunnycalb agreed that was close
enough.
Mr. Tenerowicz said on page 3 in his comment about the Four Chaplains memorial, he
had asked how much space we are losing for "spectators" not for "parking".
Motion by Mr. Tenerowicz and second by Ms. White to approve the minutes with the
amendments passed on a voice vote of 6-0.
5) Old Business:
i. Stonecrop Update
The City Manager said at the last meeting we had talked about a hearing on the
Stonecrop issue for this meeting, but instead he gave a brief update on the overhead
with photos of the waterway provided by Mr. McCarthy as provided in the agenda
packet. He said this is in response to questions as to whether we can clean up the area
to traverse the river from Stonecrop to the north on the Sebastian River, noting the
photos depict an area hard to navigate, with lots of vegetative overhang and very
shallow water in some spots. He said what will be difficult in a cleanup to open up the
waterway, will be determining whose property is it.
Mr. McCarthy said it would be a major project to clean up from the bridge south, that
weeds are high, it might have to be done by boat, that the City can probably get logs out,
but from 512 to the south it closes off, with pepper trees and it may have to be done with
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a trickster or bulldozer. He said the Stonecrop area is really nice, and years ago the City
proposed an overlook and the adjacent neighbors didn't like it then.
Chairman Simpson, said from a volunteer prospective, do we need to know who to ask
who would approve what types of trees we can cut, and said if we can get to it by kayak
we can take care of it with hand clippers. Mr. McCarthy said Brazilian peppers are
nuisance trees and can be cut at any time, and discussed Sebastian River Landings
which runs along the west side of the Sebastian River noting they may want to keep
privacy. Chairman Simpson said you can't see the houses there when you are in the
water.
Ms. White said if you could get volunteers like kayakers, would there be a liability issue
for the City. The City Manager said it could be easy, but we need to brush up on laws of
traversing the river, do some legal homework on private property issues and use of
personnel and organizational issues. Ms. Webster also said if there are kayak volunteers
interested, we need to find out from adjacent neighbors before we start.
Ms. White said if we see that enough kayakers are interested we can present it to the
Stonecrop neighborhood. The City Manager reiterated that we need to do step one first,
get with the State, then the property owners and then do the clearing, that he will get
with the City Attorney to see if there are any legal ramifications, and it might take a little
while to get the information.
Chairman Simpson asked, if a giant tree fell in the middle of the river, whose job would it
be to have it cleared out, say by Dale Wimbrow Park. The City Manager responded that
the river gets so wide there, a tree would not impede the flow, but over a road, or ditch or
canal of course it would have to be cleared out.
Ms. White said this doesn't have to happen in three months, but she would like to see
the committee move forward on it.
Mr. McCarthy described some of the property ownership on the south side of 512 along
the river. Chairman Simpson said he spoke to a property owner to the south who said
you used to be able to put in at the Concha Dam and take it all the way to 512.
The City Manager said he would look into ownership and report back and reiterated it
may take some time.
CIP
The City Manager had provided a list of projects the committee talked about at its last
meeting, and then proceed from that point. He noted there are meetings scheduled in
July on the budget calendar for the committee, though they may be able to formalize a
CIP recommendation by their June meeting.
He listed the items as follows: Lighting for multi-purpose field (in the CIP); Skate park
replacements (quasi CIP and operational); New playground equipment (provided several
options such as the pirate ship).
The Committee discussed the playground equipment locations, Creative Playground,
Riverview Park refurbishment. Mr. McCarthy noted the Schumann Park playground was
removed.
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Mr. McCarthy said he had submitted in his budget a small playground for the Community
Center and resurfacing the clay tennis courts, at $4K a piece for four courts but all of that
needs to go through several committees and Council. He said there is a fee for tennis
and it is manned and we don't make any money on it, the same as the skate park.
The City Manager said at the last meeting the committee talked about the lighting,
Creative Playground equip, other playground equipment and thought Ms. Webster had
asked about other baseball field improvements. Ms. Webster said it was the covered
picnic tables. The City Manager said we are opening bids this Thursday on ballfield
drainage fields from FY `12 CIP and will seek Council approval at the first Council
meeting in June before it can start and try to wrap up the project in 60 days. He said
they will see what balance remains before they pursue the bleacher shields and can
then look at the picnic tables as well.
He said the shades are noted in the CIP as playground improvements and we have not
moved on that yet, and then we have the handicapped pier at the Yacht club, which staff
has struggled with but think they can lower the pier on the south side at a cost of $15K.
He said for next year they had put in $150K for the multi-use field lights but will freshen
up to $185K.
Ms. Webster asked if the multi-purpose field would be used for soccer, and the City
Manager said that needs to be looked at and the soccer folks hoped to use it for
practice, if they put lights on that field many people will want to use it and both he and
Mr. McCarthy said we need to prioritize the use of all the city fields. Ms. Webster said
Little League uses the multi-purpose for t-ball.
Discussion took place on whether we could get by with two banks of lights and Mr.
McCarthy said it would require four because it would not be safe, but we can look into it
and skinny up the field and not light the whole thing.
The City Manager said for FY `13 it appears we are going with the multi-use field lights,
and add in two or three parks to add equipment along with the Creative playground. Ms.
Webster said we need canopies and Mr. McCarthy said these canopies are like sails not
like the one at the splash pad which are very expensive. Chairman Simpson said we
need playground equipment first and Ms. Webster said the ship would be perfect.
Discussion took place on the Jolly Roger for the Creative Playground, the need to add
money for installation and ground cover. Mr. McCarthy said if they pick something he
can come back with a firm number. Discussion took place on a small playground for
Schumann, and providing some smaller playground equipment that toddlers can utilize.
The City Manager said based on their feedback, staff will manipulate the numbers and
bring back a new CIP chart. He reiterated for FY'13, $185K for lights, $75K for the
Creative Playground equipment, preferably the Jolly Roger, $30K for shade shelters,
and $20K for Schumann Park smal! playground equipment.
Mr. Tenerowicz asked about covered picnic tables near the basketball courts and Mr.
McCarthy said they are made in-house and paid from his operating budget, noting again
he had submitted for a small playground at the Community Center and resurfacing of
clay tennis courts.
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Mr. Tenerowicz asked if the skateboard park is safe and Mr. McCarthy said it can be
pushed out another year if the money is not there, but some wood underneath is starting
to rot. Chairman Simpson asked if it would all be taken out and replaced and Mr.
McCarthy said it would be done in sections and that skateboarders give them
suggestions for what they want.
Chairman Simpson recapped the committee's recommendation, and discussion took
place on the lifespan of playground equipment which depended on its location, that
those near the riverfront deteriorate quicker, and the need to meet ADA requirements for
all playground equipment.
Discussion then took place on parks needing bicycle racks and encouraging people to
ride bikes. Ms. White asked if the Easy Street bike rack can be moved to the where the
handicapped area is located. Mr. McCarthy said a small rack can cost $500 to $600.
Chairman Simpson asked the City Manager if he wanted them to discuss other items
and the City Manager said the list is pretty pricey and he will manipulate into the CIP
budget and bring back to the next meeting and they may be able to complete it by their
June meeting.
Chairman Simpson advised the committee they could decide if they wanted to add
anything else at the next meeting. The City Manager said when the bal�field numbers
come in it will have a trickle down effect and they'll massage the numbers.
Ms. Webster asked if staff had heard any all grass infield suggestions, and Mr. McCarthy
said he had already written out specs but maybe we could do that on the 1 St to 3`d base
tines, noting there are pros and cons and it depends on how much play you get.
In response to Ms. Webster, the City Manager said there are ballfield sheds scheduled
for FY 14 at $100k. Mr. McCarthy said space is an issue with sheds at Barber Street.
Ms. White asked if the baseball groups put in money and Ms. Webster said no but they
did a concession in the past.
6) New Business - None
7) Input from the Public
Marian ???, said someone had written racial graffiti at the bark park small dog park this
past Saturday and they cleaned it up. It was suggested that if it happens again they
report it to the Police before they clean it.
Jim Sunnycalb thanked them for supporting the dog park, said the restrooms are going
in thanks to Council, and said people want to have events and parties at the dog park to
make it everybody's park. He said at the fountain with the handicapped arm you can't
get a handicapped chair there and suggested it be moved out of the dog park and make
it everybody's fountain. He said the Easy Street bike rack location is wrong and it should
be chained to the fence post where the garbage can is. Mr. McCarthy said this can be
done tomorrow. Ms. White said it should be next to the playground where the tables are
as long as not really close to the fence. Mr. McCarthy said it has to be chained.
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Mr. Sunnycalb asked if the recycled stuff we put in the dog park can be put in the Easy
Street parking area. Ms. White said she liked it being grass and Mr. Sunnycalb said it is
now dirt and messy when it rains.
Mr. Lucier suggested putting sod along the pads, and Mr. Sunnycalb said he was
talking about the parking area. The City Manager said we will go with sod and see
what the summer weather brings.
In response to Ms. White, Mr. McCarthy said we can get more oaks for Easy Street,
but the City Manager noted there is not much money left.
Mr. Sunnycalb asked if they can post the dog park rules on Channel 25 and the City
Manager told him to send them to him.
8) Chairman's Matters
Chairman Simpson welcomed Steven Lucier to the committee.
9) Member Matters
Ms. White said the concerts in Riverview Park have been wonderful and was told there
is one more in June and then they start up again in February.
Ms. Webster thanked Mr. McCarthy and his staff for taking such good care of the
baseball fields and suggested having one day each year to do something fun in all the
parks to promote them.
Mr. Tenerowicz said for the benefit of the public the Memorial Day service is at the
Veterans Memorial, and asked about the hold up on Schumann Park bathroom, and said
the Creative Playground paint looks good. It was noted the memorial was at 11 a.m.
10) Staff Comments
The City Manager noted there are some recreation impact funds being used for the
memorial upgrade.
11) Set Next Meetinq Date and Aqenda
Chairman Simpson noted the next meeting is June 25, 2012 a 6 pm.
12) Being no further business, the Chairman adjourned the meeting at 7:18 p.m.
Approved at the meeting.
Scott Simpson, Chairman
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Recreation Impact Fees
Investment Income
PROJECTED REVENUE
Schumann Park
Skate Park Office
Splash Park Canopy
Bryant Street Fencing
Hardee Park
Barber Street Field Expansion
Easy Street Path Lights
Schumann Park Pavillion
Riverview Park Irrigation and Fountains
Bark Park Amenities
Riverview Park Electrical
Powerline Road
Periwinkle Park
TOTAL FY 11
Mooring Fields
Blueway/Signage Improvements
Barber Street Baseball Field Drainage
Barber Street Bleacher Shields
Creative Playground Improvements
Handicap Pier - Yacht Club
TOTAL FY 12
Creative Playground Improvements
Creative Playground Equipment
Barber Street Multi-use Field Lights
TOTAL FY 13
Schumann Park Playground Equipment
Barber Street Equipment Buiiding
TOTAL FY 14
Mooring Fields
TOTAL FY 15
TOTAL FY 16
TOTAL FY 17
RECREATION IMPACT FEE FUNDS
PROJECTED BALANCES
FISCAL YEARS 2013-2018
FY 10-11 FY 11-12 FY 12-13 FY 13-14 FY 14-15 FY 15-16 FY 16-17 FY 17-18
$ 42,250 $ 38,350 $ 38,350 $ 38,350 $ 38,350 $ 38,350 $ 38,350 $ 38,350
7,223 6,085 3,325 1,621 1,026 1,080 1,356 1,634
$ 49,473 $ 44,435 $ 41,675 $ 39,971 $ 39,376 $ 39,430 $ 39,706 $ 39,984
5,780 83,754
36,168
20,802
5,118
- 2,568
185,895
486 62,514
380 28,340
8,262 - 16,738
1,450 100,000
7,389
43,743 2,271
(489)
307,595
5,000
50,000
50,000
30,000
15,000
436,836
75,000
25,000
185,000
285,000
25,000
100,000
125,000
15,000
31.738
TOTAL FY 18 p
BEGINNING FUND BALANCE $ 1,106,309 $ 848,187 $ 455,786 $ 212,461 $ 127,432 $ 135,071 $ 174,500 $ 214,206
TOTAL REVENUES � 49,473 44,435 41,675 39,971 39,376 39,430 39,706 39,984
TOTAL EXPENDITURES 307,595 436,836 285,000 125,000 31,738 0 0 0
ENDING FUND BALANCE 848,187 455,786 12,461 127,432 135,071 174,500 214,206 254,19
BEGINNING FUND BALANCE:
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
All Zones
Recreation Impact Fees
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
All Zones
Investment Income
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
All Zones
Transfers:
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
All Zones
Ending Balances:
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
All Zones
FY 10-11 FY 11-12 FY 12-13 FY 13-14 FY 14-15 FY 15-16 FY 16-17 FY 17-18
203,222 177,289 71,975 15,051 (6,535) (8,385) (3,902) 618
60,323 71,494 69,114 84,818 106,765 133,021 161,384 189,938
96,804 71,660 5,618 4,759 (504) 1,124 3,083 5,057
745,962 527,745 309,080 107,834 27,707 9,311 13,936 18,594
1,106,310 848,188 455,787 212,462 127,433 135,072 174,501 214,207
11,050 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550
22,100 27,300 27,300 27,300 27,300 27,300 27,300 27,300
650 1,950 1,950 1,950 1,950 1,950 1,950 1,950
8,450 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550 4,550
42,250 38,350 38,350 38,350 38,350 38,350 38,350 38,350
1,327 1,272 525 115 (53) (67) (30) 5
394 513 504 647 860 1,063 1,254 1,449
632 514 41 36 (4) 9 24 39
4,870 3,786 2,255 823 223 74 108 142
7,223 6,085 3,325 1,621 1,026 1,080 1,356 1,634
38,310 111,135 62,000 26,250 6,348 - - -
11,323 30,193 12,100 6,000 1,904 - - -
26,426 68,506 2,850 7,250 317 - - -
231,536 227,002 208,050 85,500 23,169 - - -
307,595 436,836 285,000 125,000 31,738 - - -
177,289 71,975 15,051 (6,535) (8,385) (3,902) 618 5,173
71,494 69,114 84,818 106,765 133,021 161,384 189,938 218,686
71,660 5,618 4,759 (504) 1,124 3,083 5,057 7,046
527,745 309,080 107,834 27,707 9,311 13,936 18,594 23,286
848,188 455,787 212,462 127,433 135,072 174,501 214,207 254,191
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