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VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
TUESDAY, AUGUST 21, 2012, 3:00 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN ST, SEBASTIAN, FL
Temporary Chairman, Ed Kilbane called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
Jerry Piper, Chair, Commander of VFW
Ed Irons, Vice Chair, Commander of American Legion
Butch Dawson, Member VFW
Ed Kilbane, Member American Legion
Donna Goff, Member Ladies Auxiliary of VFW
4. NEW BUSINESS
A. WELCOME — COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREA COY
Council Member Coy welcomed the members, stating they are the first group of
veterans to have an advisory board in Sebastian; they will have a say in what happens
at Riverview Park and with grant money; and have intervention with City Council and
the Parks and Recreation Committee.
Mr. Kilbane asked about a veterans account that has some money in it. Ms. Coy said
she was not aware of a veterans account but there is some leftover grant money
earmarked for veterans that she would provide more information on.
She invited them to represent the veterans as a united entity.
B. SELECT A TEMPORARY CHAIR FOR ORGANIZATIONAL PURPOSES
Mr. Kilbane offered to act as temporary chairman.
C. ELECT OFFICERS
MOTION by Mr. Dawson and SECOND by Mr. Piper to have the American Legion
Commander serve as chairman; and the Veterans of Foreign War Commander service
as vice-chairman.
AMENDED MOTION by Mr. Kilbane and SECOND by Ms. Goff to have the Veterans of
Foreign War Commander service as chairman; and the American Legion Commander serve
as vice-chairman.
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Result of the AMENDED MOTION roll call vote:
Ms. Goff — yes
Mr. Piper — no
Mr. Kilbane — yes
Mr. Irons- yes
Mr. Piper — yes
Motion carried 4-1 and Commander Piper took over the gavel.
D. SELECT PERMANENT MEETING DAY/TIME
There was a consensus reached to meet every other month, on the first Monday at 3:00
p.m., starting October 1St, 2012.
E. BRIEF ORIENTATION
The Recording Secretary outlined the orientation packet and invited the members to
contact staff whenever needed.
The City Attorney explained he would not attend the meetings unless requested; there
were a number of Constitutional amendments and Statutes that apply to both the board
and each member; and he invited them to contact him whenever needed.
Sunshine Law
The City Attorney said the Sunshine Law requires their discussions to happen at public
meetings, properly noticed so the public can participate with them otherwise penalties
can occur rendering their action taken, as well as recommendations to Council, void.
As an example of a situation, Chairman Piper asked if he could solicit information at
another organization's meeting with Mr. Dawson �n attendance, does Mr. Dawson need
to leave the room. The City Attorney responded that when things are discussed
outside these meetings, and more than one member is there, it is a potential sunshine
law issue.
He gave an example that if two of them are discussing transportation at the veterans'
hall, there is a Sunshine issue. He advised them to add such items to their agenda and
discuss it at their board meetings.
Chairman Piper noted the City's mission statement coincides with their joint Honor Guard
Leadership initiative and asked how the Sunshine Law would apply to their initiative. The
City Attorney said if Chairman Piper and a member of the Honor Guard discussed
something, it would be an issue. He said their mission is very broad and covers many
issues but it could be reduced by Council so they can discuss issues outside of their board
meetings.
Chairman Piper asked about activities they have started before the Board formation. The
City Attorney advised the Sunshine Law would apply to those projects such as the bricks
around the Four Chaplains Memorial.
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Public Records Law
The City Attorney said the public records law applies to any kind of document or
transition that comes to you or created by you, that deals with the business affecting the
Board and anybody can request that document or e-mail. He advised them to store
letters or e-mails from any source with the City Clerk for public access.
Ethics
The City Attorney advised them they are here in a public capacity and they are not
permitted to act in a way that the State calls a private interest. He said if they feel they
might be in an area that might comprise a special, private benefit, give him a call to talk it
over.
He wished them the best of luck and hoped when their service is done, they could look
back with pride.
Chairman Piper asked if he could talk to his president about projects that are not related
to the goal of the board, such as a Christmas parade. The City Attorney advised if the
project will become a subject of the Board then the Sunshine Law is implemented. He
invited all of them to call him to discuss any of these matters further.
Mr. Kilbane asked to set the next agenda so they know what to talk about; and suggested
not talking about the Riverview Park outside of the Board meetings.
Chairman Piper said some of them were working with the North County Veterans
Advisory Group on the bricks and suggested having the group come to their board
meeting or speak to those members individually.
The City Attorney said reality is most important but the tyranny is in appearances and they
should be in compliance. He said they could decide who invites the North County group to
the next meeting.
Commander Irons asked Chairman Piper if Jack will continue on Brick Advisory
Committee. Chairman Piper said he would like Jack to continue so he could provide a
report to them at the next meeting.
5. MEMBERS MATTERS
Mr. Dawson said he would like to have an update on what is happening in Riverview Park.
Chairman Piper offered to have a member of the North County Group give them a briefing
at the next meeting.
Mr. Kilbane said some of the bricks around the Four Chaplains Memorial are great but
some are terrible; and some are not placed where they should be. Chairman Piper
agreed that the vendor changed the font; it is not as deep and black as the first bricks.
The Board reached the consensus to have the ladies auxiliary member rotate every six
months unless an extension is needed for a pressing issue.
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6. OTHER MATTERS
A. SET NEXT MEETING DATE AND AGENDA
Chairman Piper said he would like to invite the coordinator for the Sebastian Area Honor
Guard Charlie Long or Andy Westerfield to the next meeting.
7. Being no further business, Commander Piper adjourned the meeting at 4:21 p.m. and the
Board saluted the Flag.
Approved at the October 1 St, 2012 Veterans Advisory Board meeting.
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