HomeMy WebLinkAbout01262012 PRBDRAFT MINUTES — 2nd Revision
JANUARY 26, 2012
Sebastian Police Pension Board Minutes: December 13, 2011,
10:00 a.m.
TYPE OF MEETING: Regularly Scheduled
Sebastian City Council Chambers
NOTE TAKER: Harry Tanner
ATTENDEES: Board Members:
Harry - Tanner, Secretary
Debra Krueger
Steve Marcinik
Greg Witt
EXCUSED Robert Zomok (sick)
CONSULTANTS:
Peter Goodridge, Wells Fargo Advisor
Grant Mc Murry, ICC Capital Mgmt. (Portfolio Manager)
Lee Dehner, Attorney
SUBJECT
CALL TO ORDER
10:00 a.m. There being a quorum present, Debra Krueger, called the
meeting to order.
SUBJECT
ELECTION OF NEW OFFICERS
10 :00 a.m. Harry Tanner made a motion to nominate Greg Witt, Board
Chairman. Debra Krueger and unanimously passed by the Board.
10:00 a.m. Chairman Witt presided over a discussion of whether absent
Board member, Robert Zomok, would be willing to take over the
secretary duties? It was felt he would be willing.
10:05 a.m. A motion was made to nominate Robert Zomok as Board
Secretary, Harry Tanner seconded the motion, and it was unanimously
passed by the Board.
Chairman Witt asked Harry Tanner take notes for today's meeting and
it was agreed.
SUBJECT
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
10:05 a.m. Chairman Witt motioned the minutes of the: September 13,
2011 Board Meeting, and, the, Special Board meeting held October 18,
2011, be reviewed and approved. Motioned seconded by Debra Krueger
and passed unanimously without change, for both meetings.
SUBJECT
OLD BUSINESS
STATUS OF 1sT DRAFT OF LOCAL LAW ORDINANCE
It should be noted that many Fund Members and Al Minner, City
Manager was present for this portion of the meeting.
10:10 a.m. Lee Delmer, Pension attorney reports the ratified CBA
agreement had not yet been received. Debbie Krueger left the meeting
momentarily to provide a copy of the CBA for Mr. Delmer.
10:10 a.m. Chairman Witt delivered a Memorandum addressed to
Greg Witt, City of Sebastian Police Pension Fund, dated 11/17/11, from
Jason Mills, Sebastian PD CFPBA Unit Representative, subject: Union
Interest in Additional Benefits.
Al Minner asked to address the board regarding benefit changes. Mr.
Minner noted that additional benefits can not be added to an enacting
ordinance as only those benefits collectively negotiated between the City
and the PBA are permitted.
Chairman Witt inquired about the City of Sebastian Agenda
transmittal dated for Council 12/14/11, Agenda No., 11.151.
Mr. Minner clarified that these were two separate matters. One matter
being the collectively agreed to pension modifications require an
ordinance to be enacted and reviewed by the Pension board. This is for
benefits that have been collectively negotiated between the City and the
PBA.
The second issue being Agenda No. 11.151 which was a legislative action
that Council was considering for lobbying the State Legislature. That
matter concerned proposed modifications to pension law.
A discussion ensued between Lee Dehner, and Al Minner, concerning
Mr. Minner's statement on the division. between a pension modification
and Council considering a legislative position resolution. Mr. Dehner,
stated he believes the idea of the items being only CBA items are
arguable, and do apply for this stage of the Local Law Ordinance Plan.
Chairman Greg Witt asked if any in attendance would like to speak to
this matter.
Fund member, stated the City Council is hearing from
management on this Resolution (the Agenda Item) without any input
from membership on the issue the Resolution addresses.
Fund member, stated the City Council is hearing from
management on this Resolution (the Agenda Item) without any input
from membership on the issue the Resolution, and additionally that
these benefits were free and the SPD is entitled to them.
Fund member, questioned whether the proposed additional
benefits requested by Mr. Mills memo would add additional costs to the
pension changes desired.
Lee Dehner responded as to what he believed an actuary would think
had no costs involved. Mr. Dehner believed that, maybe, the Drop plan
and Military Buy back would add costs.
Al Minner responded that the City believed there would be costs
associated with the additional benefit requests.
Lee Dehner spoke of the process whereby the City and the Bargaining
Agent waive their rights to Pension Benefits being collectively bargained
and have the Fund provide the Pension Benefit function.
Al Minner stated the City did not relinquish their right to negotiate
pension benefits.
With no one else wanting to speak, the Board resumed discussion.
A motion was made by Debra Krueger for Lee Dehner to prepare one
ordinance to include the reduction in accrual factor for new police
officers that was ratified by the PBA and City. Council in October, and
authorize Foster, & Foster to prepare a financial impact statement for
other additional benefits requested by the PBA.
The motion failed for lack of a Second.
A Board discussion regarding addressing the City Council meeting and
asking them not to vote on the Resolution in the consent agenda took
place.
Board member Steve Marcinik stated he would address the council if no
one else did. Harry Tanner also said he would be there.
11:00 a.m. the Board made a motion, and it was seconded to authorize
Lee Dehner to draft an ordinance changing the pension benefits as
collectively agreed with the requested additional benefits per the memo
prepared by Jason Mills. The motion passed by the Board with a vote
of 3 -1. Debbie Krueger voted against the motion.
A discussion was held between the Board members and our Attorney
regarding benefits and our role as a Board in assisting the Fund
members in their effort to better their pensions, and, fund member's
belief the Board should be helping.
Lee Dehner said he would draft a document on what he believes are
non -cost items. Lee suggested we arrange a special meeting to further
discuss the Local Law Plan.
It was decided that Lee would pick a date after January 18, 2012, for
the special meeting and forward it to the Board for acceptance.
WELLS FARGO CONTRACT UPDATE
11:20 a.m. Lee Dehner states the liability issue is still holding things up.
Peter Goodridge said he has been trying to convince Wells Fargo
lawyers that the standard Lee is seeking is in other contracts that Well
Fargo has with other Florida municipalities.
Lee said the way Wells Fargo wants the contract to read, Wells Fargo,
will have less, rather than equal, fiduciary responsibilities. He said this
is a significant issue. The matter will be updated at the next regular
Board meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
SUBJECT
FOSTER & FOSTER PRICE SHEET
DISCUSS AND REVIEW. VALUATION
11:25 a.m. Debra Krueger asked the Boards permission to adjourn
these matters to a later Agenda and permission to send out an RFP for
the services we are looking for. The Board agreed and Debra will follow
up and update the Board at a later meeting. Debra will also send out to
Board members the most current actuarial statement available.
SUBJECT
PROXY VOTING STATEMENTS
11:30 a.m. Grand Mc Murry reports it is not possible to see the proxy
statement before votes are cast because there is only one statement and
it goes to the person or agent who is casting the vote.
Basically a process whereby the agent would provide the information on
the proxy statement to the Board before voting the proxy is not possible
without creating a new complex time restricted system.
SUBJECT
WELLS FARGO ADVISORS REPORT
11:30 a.m. Peter Goodridge gave his investment performance report for
the period ending Sept. 30, 2011. He provided a report dated Dec. 12,
2011. Except for four Bonds in the portfolio that currently do not meet
the requirements of our investment policy, the Plan is in full compliance
with written policies.
SUBJECT
PORTFOLIO MANAGERS INVESTMENT REVIEW REPORT
11:50 a.m. Grant Mc Murry provided statistics in book form for the last
Quarter ending September 30, 2011. He stated it was a really bad
quarter with the Fund return down - 8.91 %. Grant states the market is
being driven by Hedge Funds, making the Regulated investments
strategies of our Fund difficult to compete in these market conditions.
A discussion was held as to what might be done to improve
performance. Grant stated we are already performing much better in
the fourth quarter.
Grant will update on the 4 Bond issue at the March 2012 meeting.
SUBJECT
ATTORNEY MATTERS
12:30 p.m. Lee Dehner reports the pension issues under the new Local
Law /Ordinance Plan will be discussed at a special Board meeting in
January 2012. He will prepare draft of issues needed to be discussed.
SUBJECT
ACTION ITEMS
ITEM RESPONSIBLE PERSON
Special Meeting Date Lee Dehner
Public Notice Special Meeting Debra Krueger
Wells Fargo Contract Update Dehner /Goodridge
Current Actuarial Statements Debra Krueger
RFP for Actuarial Statements Lee Dehner
Update on 4 Bonds Grant Mc Murry
SUBJECT
ADJOURNMENT
12:35 p.m. having no further business for discussion, Chairman Greg
Witt adjourned the meeting.
Next regularly scheduled meeting is March 20, 2012, at 10:00 a.m.