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Home My WebLink About02252013 PR MinutesRECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES FEBRUARY 25, 2013 The Sebastian Parks and Recreation Committee was called to order by the Chairman. Roll Call was taken and the following members were present: Mr. Tenerowicz, Mrs. Webster, Mr. Simpson, and Mrs. Flescher. Mr. Sims and Mrs. White were absent excused and Mr. Lucier were absent Staff members present were Linda Kinchen, Secretary; Al Minner, City Manager and Chris McCarthy, Parks Superintendent APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mrs. Webster made a motion to approve the minutes as amended from the January 28, 2013 meeting. Second by Mr. Tenerowicz passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS — 1) BIKE PATH MAP UPDATE Mr. Minner gives a brief update and says council will have to decide how many signs go up. Mrs. Flescher asks if we can put a slot for the maps for people to take on the sign. Mr. Minner says no problem. He recommends signs go at Stormwater Park, Hardee Park, Riverview Park, Barber Street for the large ones. Smaller signs could go in the highlands at 510 and 512, Barber Street and 512, Schumann, Lake Street, Periwinkle and City Hall. The committee agrees. Mrs. Webster likes small angled ones. Jim Sunnycalb says the Natural Resource board has a website which would be a better place then putting signs up — Mrs. Flescher asks if websaite can be put on the map somewhere. Mr. Simpson says need to add restroom locations also. All of the members agree on size. 2) EASY STREET LIGHTS UPDATE Chris says manufacturer says led lights are better- Mr. Minner says we tried to keep it low and it didn't work out so we will be changing them out and manufacturer will split the cost. 3) PING PONG TABLES Mr. Simpson says committee should go around to parks and see where and if they will be used. He says can put near the tennis courts and volley ball courts. Mr. Tenerowicz asks if there is one at Riverview park Chris says a checkers table is there but never sees anyone use it. Mr. Tenerowicz says we should talk about it at a later date Mr. Minner Parks and Recreation Minutes February 25„ 2013 Page Two says can talk about it at CIP Time. A motion to table for a later date was made by Mr. Tenerowicz seconded by Mrs. Webster, Passed unanimously. 4) DOG PARK BRICKS Mr. Minner explains how the bricks work at Veterans Memorial — The cost to the city would be for the concrete work and purchase of the bricks — They are exchanged out when purchased after being engraved. Mrs. Flescher asks if we put the slab down must we put the bricks in right away. Slab has a useful purpose to fix the mud hole — do we want to make this a revenue venture for the City or no profit. Mr. Minner says he feels the mud bog needs to be fixed — Maria from the Dog Park says people have a different opinion says people don't want this would like money spent elsewhere — she says only knows of one person who would buy a brick. Mr. Simpson says probably won't sell 1800 bricks Mr. Tenerowicz asks can't we do a French drain to fix the problem and Chris says there is one already and it is not working. Jim Sunnycalb says you can't please everyone — handicap parking with a chair doesn't want to go through a mud hole. If nothing else — we should put in the concrete slabs to fix the mud hole also he says benches are needed at Schumann park and hasn't been addressed for racquetball he doesn't like the ping pong table idea feels it is a bad idea. Bob Faust says the wall at Schumann tennis courts is not good for the practice and feels a racquetball court is necessary. He will bring pictures to the next meeting with costs He says there is minimal upkeep to a wall. Older residents like the wall to warm up at Tennis courts Mr. Simpson says please bring the pictures. The problem with a wall at Schumann is practice is in a court and we spend more time chasing the ball then practicing — Multi purpose racquetball, squash, handball court works with one or two people —low maintenance — Mr. Simpson will put on next meeting for location and use. Will wait on bricks does the committee want to take care of the mud issue. Mr. Tenerowicz asks will it help — Chris says yes — Mr. Minner feels it is a good idea. Mr. Tenerowicz is in favor to fix but will water cause more problems elsewhere. Mr. Simpson says it is a nice feature for bricks but no worth costs we should table this as well and take a second look next month during the CIP discussion. 5) COMMUNITY CENTER PLAYGROUND Mr. Minner is looking for ideas based on the sample playgrounds submitted This will have to be formally bid out so the system may be a little different. Mrs. Flescher says it Parks and Recreation Minutes February 25„ 2013 Page Three should be a 2 -12 year old system per Kathy Falzone — Mrs. Flescher feels Playground should be put in but paint inside should also be done and look at other enhancements. Mr. Minner says Mrs. Flescher would like us to build a new community center with a commercial kitchen- office and area for a playground. Mr. Minner says Bill Schulke would like to show the committee plans he has from years ago for the area where the old building department used to be. He suggests adding a center section to the two buildings there and making one big building. A) Do we need it B) What should it look like C) Can we use Recreational Impact Fees Mrs. Flescher would like CIP to reflect improvements or a new building Mr. Schulke give out a plan to the board for 7000sf 2520 is the court yard from 9/26/06 plans says old Council Chambers could be refurbished or the Community Center needs a facelift but can't use Rec Fees for maintenance. If you build a new one fees could be used. Mrs. Webster says any Community Center needs a kitchen so adding to the old buildings would not work. Chris to measure the current community Center and bring back to the next meeting. Mr. Minner says adding to the old buildings has merit. Mrs. Flescher says is this more economical then building a new one mr. Minner says we should have these discussions in the CIP process. Mr. Simpson says we will talk more about it — says do we hold off on the playground Mr. Minner says put in the playground now this wouldn't happen till 2015 if everyone was gungho Mr. Minner will bring up under his matters at Council. Mrs. Flescher says air conditioner sticks out — steps have no railings need covered picnic tables inside the fenced area along with two benches. Repair the basketball court and keep the balls at the community center and ask about relocating the utility pole — Mrs. Flescher asks for a sign Chris says pick the playground items and we can go out for bid and bring back the proposals. Mrs. Flescher says as long as it is up to 12 years — likes the Canyon Ridge system — all agree. 6) SCHUMANN PARK UPDATE Mr. Minner says almost done then will be starting at the Dog Park PUBLIC INPUT: Maria reminds Chris about two trees — he says he is taking care of it. Parks and Recreation Minutes February 25„ 2013 Page Four Mr, Sunnycalb — Great news about a dog park in Vero Beach — A group in Vero want to start a dog park can they call Al or Chris — Mr. Minner says yes. Mr Simpson says you can go to Parks and Recreation in Vero also — Mr. Sunnycalb says told them they need council to approve. The Parks bring people into the City per Mr. Sunnycalb and the play equipment is good for that the Pirate Ship is great people are taking pictures at Easy Street the bird house is gone but the pole is still there — Chris will check. CHAIRMANS MATTERS: Is it possible for Stonecrop to remove the signs for canoe and kayak access only instead of no parking — Mr. Minner says we need to revisit as a park needs public meeting Mr. Simpson asks about an email he got to remove oyster shells at Riverview Chris says DEP to advise if it is okay to remove — Mr Simpson says a bike rack is necessary. MEMBERS MATTERS: Mr. Tenerowicz agrees with Mrs. Flescher on community center we need to do something. Mrs. Flescher would like a brochure holder outside the community center — Pelican sign deteriorating Mr. Minner to check. Mrs. Webster in agreement with community center improvements — has an issue at the ballfield — field 4 parking problem — wants no parking signs on fence or by the trees to allow for ambulance access She asks Chris about recycle bins — Mr. Minner says hold off its in the new franchise agreement — asks about picnic tables and canopies. STAFF COMMENTS: None Next meeting March 25, 2013 With no other business to come before the Parks and Recreation Committee, Chairman Simpson declared the meeting adjourned at 8:10 PM. Approved March 25, 2013 Regular Meeting. B.7 .1 T6. ,R Matthew Sims, Vice-Chairman, Parks and Recreation Committee