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Sebastian Police Pension Board Minutes
March 19, 2013, 10:00 a.m.
Sebastian City Council Chambers
TYPE OF MEETING: Regularly Scheduled
ATTENDEES: Board Members:
Greg Witt, Chair
Robert Zomok, Secretary
Harry Tanner
Debra Krueger
Steve Marcinik
EXCUSED:
CONSULTANTS:
Doug Lozen, Foster & Foster
Scott Owens, Doug and Charles Mulfinger - Graystone Consulting.
Grant McMurry, ICC Capital Mgmt. (Portfolio Manager)
Lee Dehner, Attorney
SUBJECT
CALL TO ORDER
10:00 a.m. There being a quorum present, Greg Witt, called the meeting
to order.
SUBJECT
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
10:05 a.m. Harry Tanner motioned the minutes of the December 11,
2012 Board Meeting, be approved. Motioned seconded by Bob Zomok
and passed unanimously without change, for both meetings.
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SUBJECT
OLD BUSINESS
The proposed cost of the “no cost” items to be added to the new
Ordinance was discussed at length at the December 11, 2012 meeting. At
that time, the Board had received a letter from our Actuarial firm -
Foster & Foster - stating that there are no immediate costs to adding
amendments to allow the purchase by the Police Officer of service for
FMLA time, the purchase of prior police service, and prior military
service.
The reservations advanced by the City Manager, Al Minner, concerning
these issues and their costs were discussed in detail. The Board
determined that our course of action at this time is to send a letter to the
City Manager. A motion was made by Bob Zomok and seconded by
Steve Marcinik to have “a letter prepared by Attorney Dehner to the
City Manager stating that we (the Board) have resolved his concerns
about including the ‘no-cost’ items in the Ordinance by securing written
documentation (letter included) from our Actuaries stating these
changes are, in fact, at no immediate cost. There may be future costs but
these would occur after the new collective bargaining agreement is in
effect. The Sebastian Police Pension Board would like to resolve this
matter in order to move the approval of the Ordinance forward. Does
this satisfy your reservations? Do you have any additional questions?”
The motion passed unanimously.
The letter was sent to City Manager Minner and he was at this meeting.
His concerns arose from three perspectives - the Board’s potential
“interference” in collective bargaining via sending the updated
Ordinance to Sebastian City Council with the “no cost“items included.
Secondly, the City did not believe the numbers as presented by the
actuaries. In his opinion, cost would be added via the purchase of past-
service time and additional expenses for the DROP program. Thirdly,
Adding in prior service would increase the cost to the plan.
Doug Lozen responded that the State’s objection cannot be adequately
defended. A DROP program must meet three (3) criteria - -The person
must be eligible for normal retirement, a limit of 5 to 8 years
participation in the DROP program is established, and the DROP must
give a fixed interest option which is less than the actuarial assumption of
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8% (6.5%). Our DROP portion of the Plan meets these criteria. Further,
if the Police Officer left employment and started to draw actual
retirement checks versus staying in the DROP program, the cost to the
Plan is the same. Finally, the Police Officer wanting to “buy-back” past
service is responsible for the entire cost of the “buy-back.”
The Board also attempted to reassure Mr. Minner that we had no desire
or intention to interfere in the collective bargaining process. However,
he was reminded that the Board has, as a duty, to be a resource to the
Police Officers. Further, there is a “overlap” area - the City Ordinance -
which is within the Board’s purview.
After City Manager Minner left the meeting, Doug Lozen offered
several areas for the Board to consider. To determine the position of the
Plan, three areas need to be considered: Census (who is in the Plan and
Bank statements), The City Ordinance, and the last Plan Valuation
(especially the plan assumptions). Given this data and considering what
Sebastian City Council has already approved (the lowering of Police
Officer contributions), the Plan cost to the City, when viewed over time,
will be reduced. To demonstrate this fact, Doug stated he could
demonstrate, in graph form, this reduction in cost to the City. Steve
Marcinik moved that a graph be produced showing the impact of what
Sebastian City Council has approved versus what would have occurred
if the changes were not made. Debra Krueger seconded the motion. The
motion passed unanimously. (This is a 20 to 30 year projection of the
funding requirements Council has approved with the changes in
Ordinance parts 12.02 and 12.09.)
Updated Plan Summary Status - Attorney Dehner will revise the
Summary Plan Description to update it for any ordinance changes and
have copies at our next meeting.
SUBJECT
NEW BUSINESS
The Board was asked to approve Foster & Foster invoice #4566 in the
amount of $6,850.00. Bob Zomok moved to approve payment, Harry
Tanner seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
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Doug Lozen, Foster & Foster, provided the Board with the “Valuation
Results as of the 10/1/2012. The FASB Funded Ratio (money in the bank
vs. value of promised benefits) was 107.90% This, in essence means, if
the Plan were to terminate immediately, for every dollar of promised
benefits, the Plan has $1.07 to cover those costs. Further the GASB
Funded Ratio is 90.30% versus a required ratio of 80%. This means
that if all promised benefits were projected to the retirement of all
current Police officers, the Plan has 90.30% of those costs covered.
Graystone Consulting representatives presented a draft of a re-stated
Investment Policy for the Board’s consideration. The discussion of their
proposed changes will be discussed at the June 18, 2013 meeting after
the Board has had a chance to review the proposed changes.
Graystone Consulting also presented an educational program on Asset
Allocation including Alternatives. This basic knowledge will be used at
the next meeting as the Board explores asset allocation in more depth to
include specific fund managers for specific investment types.
SUBJECT
PORTFOLIO MANAGERS INVESTMENT REVIEW REPORT
Grant McMurry presented his report showing the Market Value of
Cash/Cash Equivalents is 4.0% of the Fund’s investments, Equity
investments are at 50.6%, and Fixed investments are at 45.3%.The
Fund has a 7.7% increase for the Fiscal Year to Date.
SUBJECT
ATTORNEY MATTERS
In addition to the matters discussed above in reference to the City
Manager’s response to the letter sent to him by Attorney Dehner, the
following matters were brought to the Board’s attention:
Lee is tracking HB 599 and companion bill SB 534 for impact on
defined benefit plans and SB 458 which imposes restriction on the plans
by the State. The conventional wisdom holds this should be controlled
locally.
Lee also reminded the Board that the required Form #1 is due prior to
July 2013.
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SUBJECT
OTHER BUSINESS
Debra reminded the Board members that the Education session
required is being offered by the State May 20 - 22, 2013.
SUBJECT
ACTION ITEMS
ITEM RESPONSIBLE PERSON
Letter to State on Total Expected Debra Krueger
Rate of Return and Asset Allocation this issue is to be discussed at
the next meeting
Report on the Sale of the (5) Grant McMurry - next meeting
Down graded Bonds
SUBJECT
ADJOURNMENT
1:50 p.m. Having no further business for discussion, Chairman Greg
Witt adjourned the meeting.
Next regularly scheduled meeting is June 18, 2013, at 10:00 a.m. in the
City Council Chambers.
Respectfully submitted
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Bob Zomok, Secretary